Well...today is Sunday 2nd October 2022....and oh so much has happened since my last post! (4 years ago! shameful !!! 🤯) with probably the key things being Covid 19 and I retired!

A family history acquaintance / distant Trattles relative (confirmed via DNA) has got me back on the Trattles trail so I thought I would record my journey. So here goes.

Chris has enrolled myself and John on a Trattles collaboration ;0) 

We are starting with the Brotton and Marske (Yorkshire) clans and seeing if we can agree their origins and descendants.

Today I have sent to Chris, for review, my thoughts on who is who and where did they come from and go! (Using actual parish records, which thankfully many are on line, & wills etc) I will share to the blog, once I get it looked over.  Much of this has already been done by Chris

There are now many trees on ancestry that have conflicting records / individuals as parents etc and often it is because trusting individuals think the info they are collecting is accurate, but unfortunately, often it is not. It is based on assumptions and little more than that.

Chris John & I are hoping to provide as much evidence as possible to confirm the actual Trattles family lines, as accurately as possible.

Through my journey i will share any titbits of info of records... such as I just read this:

Ugthorpe, Roman Catholic St Annes, Burials:  "1819 May 28 Ann Trattles 29 Ugthorpe child birth & neglect"

For anyone with a Find My Past Subscription, this is the record: Here

I am currently working through the Roman Catholic Trattles / Trastle records to piece together..watch this space.

Request for Info from USA

I received a request for assistance from the USA last week.
A gentleman looking for information on his Grandmother Helen Trattles.

This sparked me into action, following a log absence from my Trattles research. Helen was the wife of Laban Trattles....who you will see I was attempting to look into back in 2012. I have now managed to link Laban back to a line in Staithes Yorkshire.

Request for Info 2018-08-08 Helen Trattles (nee Reimer)

Query in relation to Trattles family in USA

Helen Trattles was German speaking but was born in Nebraska. Her parents migrated to USA from Russia, though there is some confusion about their actual nationality. 

The following appears to be a record of Leroy Lebans marriage to Helen in 1932. Her maiden name is Reimer:

1900 USA Census
Helen Reimer - age 1 - Date of Birth (DoB) 5/9/1898 - Place of Birth (PoB) Nebraska -
Leabe Reimer - age 36 - DoB 1863 - PoB Russia
This census tells us that Leabe & Nicklaus (on previous page) have been married 12 years… so they married in 1888 - with it also telling us that Leabe arrived in the USA in 1874/9… so the marriage must have taken place in America. Though I cannot find any records on line.

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1910 USA Census
Nick Reimer - age 45 - PoB Rus. German (this means, born Russia, German speaking)
Helen Reimer - age 11 - PoB Nebraska
Leabe Reimer - age 47 - PoB Ger. German

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1920 USA Census
Nick Reimer - age 65 - PoB German - Language German
Helen Reimer - age 22 - PoB Nebraska
Liabe Reimer - age 67 - PoB Poland - Language Polish
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Clearly between the census' there is a discrepancy in places of origin and Dates of Birth.
Could it have been just a misinterpretation at the time the census was taken?
Personally I believe this to be the case - and they should have been aged 55/54 respectively. So could that mean that the enumerator stated the incorrect places of birth? However it seems odd to have entered Poland instead of Germany?

1930 USA Census
Nick Reimer - age 65 - PoB Rus. German
Helen Reimer - age 31 - PoB Nebraska
It appears that Leabe has now died and that Nicholas has re-married.

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1940 USA Census - Sacramento, California

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I have located other family trees that have Helen's family recorded, and they have concluded that her mother Liebe was born in Germany in 1864 and has the parents: Friederich Proboll & Anna Navzitsky, but I cannot find any evidence to prove this.

In regards to the Hebron/Trattles family that emigrated to USA from England - there is a collection of many letters from Jane Hebron (nee Trattles) (your Great Great Great Grandmother) that she wrote back home to relatives in the UK and replies she received... about their new life in America...please look at:

http://www.migenweb.org/cass/familyalbum/trattles.htm

ONS Update - 1841 transcribe and variants

It is now the 1st July 2012 - I have been Trattling for the last 4 weeks 0 but not intensively!  Currently I am creating spreadsheets with all census data.  I have been viewing a few other One Name Study Websites and this is ho they tend to make data available rather than just providing a family tree.
Have been comparing Find My Past v Ancestry transcriptions - am finding a fre transcription variants which include:  TRATTLE, FATTLE, HATTLE, TRATLES, TRATLE, TRATTEL, TRATTER, FERSTLER, SRATTLES, TREATTLES

ONS Update 2012 May 12th

11:10 am - Have just entered 3008th person into the Trattles Database!! - descendants of Hannah Trattles b1845.

This morning spent going through Free BMD deaths 1866 - 1900 (as have age alongside) and entering any death records.  Just realising how many infant deaths there were. ;0(

19th May 2012

Got a few more bits of info on American Trattles - family of Leban Trattles, Michigan.  Started to look at Find My Past Parish Registers - but there appears to be a discrepancy in records provided by CFHS.... they have Cleveland Parish Registers and North Yorkshire Parish Registers which appear to overlap.  Ie Ann Trattles bapt 23 Oct 1749 to John - in Hinderwell... one register has abode as Runswick the other as Staithes! - This occurs wiht the majority of Hinderwell records

SPent most of day adding baptisms sources from all England - some new records along the way as well.

17th May 2012

Yesterday (16/5/12) the following lines:
Mary TRATTLES & THEASBY - Scarborough area.  Resulted in find a family tree with Ellen DANIEL - 3rd Cousin of my mam .....
Last night started John CODLING & Ann TRATTLES - hope to finish today.

14th May 2012

Mary Trattles - daughter of Leonard

7am - My Great Great Grand Aunt 
Adding her marriage to Wm Theasby and then all her descendants to follow.

7pm - Nearly got all the Theasby's BMD and census info complete

13th May 2012

Immigration and Travel records start to review - today Mary Trattles - to Seattle from North Shields in 1911. Then moved to California.

Also review descendant records of John Trattles and Margaret Sleightholme

11am - Now completely sidetracked by 'hints' in ancestry - going through many families in tree and updating records.

Trattles & Hebrons Migrate to Michigan (2012 May)

Daniel Trattles - b. Eng 1837

Locating Records in IGI and Ancestry for descendants linked to DANIEL TRATTLES, born England 1837 and emmigrated to Michigan USA in 1840s

After 5 hours of browsing and adding info! Have now got 2,556 records in database.  Ended up reviewing all of Wm Trattles & Sarah Hebrons descendants and began 'properly' reading the Trattles/Hebron letters from the Cass County website.... how great they are!

Trattles from Brotton

Brotton Trattles

6am: Following a query from Chris re cousins Margaret and John Trattles marrying, I updated my database with records from IGI and added sources to current data, regards to the Trattles in Brotton between 1650 and 1700.  This included Philip, Thomae, Michaell and Robert Tratle - who all had kids in 1660s.  I am assuming they may have been brothers - but time will tell.

8:10: Just added the 2500 record to my Trattles, spouses and descendants database!  William Tratle born 1670 Brotton, Yorkshire to Robert Tratle!